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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 3:39:54 GMT -5
I am being slightly serious. No, Wesley was not his real name, it was John.
After like an hour of searching through the archives, I found it again, but now I feel bad if I post it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 3:41:48 GMT -5
Oh, and don't feel bad, most people can't tell. I swear, you are all fucking have down syndrome sometimes. Unable to distinguish between sarcasm and seriousness.
I will post on the bottom for now on what I am feeling, I think it will help you all.
Oh, and I always say 'Fuck jesus, what am I saying? Too high, gotta post anyway. Gotta keep up the quota of asshittery on this forum.'
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Post by D on Oct 18, 2012 4:54:20 GMT -5
By the way, THAT's the main reason I stopped being active. THAT's why I quit roleplaying, why I quit RP fighting, why I stopped giving a fuck about this whole thing. Why? It's because of YOU and people like YOU. No, you quit because you gave up. Not faulting you for it, I mean I'm not a speed fighter at all, I don't blame you for not wanting to get creamed. Nicole, hardly posts, and as I recall you saying was your wife. So either she's not your wife and she's "Wesley's" wife somehow (I dunno how that would work, she would be okay with you lying on a forum, I guess its not so farfetched) But if she's not your wife, and some random from the website you said, why is she posting with the same IP as you. Gee, buddy... I gotta say, not helping your case. I mean I wanna believe you, and in the beginning I GAVE you the benefit of the doubt because you were for the most part a pleasant person. But then you came in all "Eric/Nonperiel" attitude, and well, I'm not an Eric fan. Hell, I even asked Flik if you were one in the same. He assured me you were someone different, (and I can see it now), but just in that alone, just because you "confessed" means you're a trustworthy guy now? I think not. Trust is earned, especially since you so carelessly torched it when you had it the first time. This is EXACTLY what I mean... And the sad thing is, you KNOW you're lying, and yet you're still hounding ME for it... That's hypocracy.
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Post by D on Oct 18, 2012 5:07:50 GMT -5
Kellindil?
I wish I could say that I was Kellindil, the alleged founder of T1 according to my timeline. But alas, I cannot ruin a good person's name like that. I respect Kellindil, enough to admit that we are not one and the same...
Who am I?
I am Dionysus, the founder of ART, the style inspired by Kellindil's T1, though different in nature. I am the one who destroyed all of your best speed fighters at Kad'z chat, many many years ago, back when Multicity hosted free RP chats. I am the man in the iron mask. It's funny, you know, since I see sooo many people here with blank names, but I'm the only one here who is truly nameless.
Current RP Fighting Events do not negate the actions of the past, and although I never kept any records of Kad'z time period, it still doesn't negate the fact that I beat you a long, long time ago, nor does it negate the fact that you lied about it.
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Post by D on Oct 18, 2012 5:33:12 GMT -5
By the way, forget that I even mentioned Kad'z chat. It doesn't matter anyway, it's in the past, and even if I did have the records to show proof that I was one of the best speed fighters in Multicity in 1998 (oops, 1999, my bad), and even if I could provide evidence to show that I was undefeated at that time period, it still wouldn't matter because I've already fucked it up so badly that everyone would just say that I forged it and was lying any way. The past doesn't matter to me any more - And before Lys even has a CHANCE to twist my words again ("Yea Wes that's why you constantly talk about the past and posted a timeline") - I said "any more" as in right now, TODAY. sor You have completely ruined my interest in this game to the point where my timeline doesn't even matter to me any more. I could give a fuck less about RP fighting, or about ANYTHING which happened in the past. So if I make any reference to the things you've done back then, it's only because people like Lys are still doing those sort of things right NOW.
HORP is so full of hypocrites and bullshit fallacies that I can't believe ANYONE here would even stoop so low as to accuse me of doing the same thing. Here I have come forward to speak the truth, even exposing my OWN misdeeds, and yet you people wanna hound me for lying when 99.9% of you are doing the same EXACT thing... right NOW.
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Post by D on Oct 18, 2012 5:37:33 GMT -5
THAT is why I dont RP any more...
It's not because I can't cut it, or because I'm afraid I might lose. That bullshit is exactly that, BULLSHIT.
I don't fight any more because I simply lost interest...
No more and no less...
THAT's it...
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Post by Kristen on Oct 18, 2012 7:04:09 GMT -5
No, you quit because you gave up. Not faulting you for it, I mean I'm not a speed fighter at all, I don't blame you for not wanting to get creamed. Nicole, hardly posts, and as I recall you saying was your wife. So either she's not your wife and she's "Wesley's" wife somehow (I dunno how that would work, she would be okay with you lying on a forum, I guess its not so farfetched) But if she's not your wife, and some random from the website you said, why is she posting with the same IP as you. Gee, buddy... I gotta say, not helping your case. I mean I wanna believe you, and in the beginning I GAVE you the benefit of the doubt because you were for the most part a pleasant person. But then you came in all "Eric/Nonperiel" attitude, and well, I'm not an Eric fan. Hell, I even asked Flik if you were one in the same. He assured me you were someone different, (and I can see it now), but just in that alone, just because you "confessed" means you're a trustworthy guy now? I think not. Trust is earned, especially since you so carelessly torched it when you had it the first time. This is EXACTLY what I mean... And the sad thing is, you KNOW you're lying, and yet you're still hounding ME for it... That's hypocracy. Okaaay, after double checking I will confirm different IP's. My bad I made a mistake. But I knew there was something fishy about the situation. You introduced her as your wife, yet you had different IP's. I found that odd. So is this woman your wife, or some random chick you put up to covering for your lies?
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Post by D on Oct 18, 2012 9:20:43 GMT -5
If you honestly didn't know you were making a false statement, then you're not a liar, and I apologise...
But...
Anyways, this part of the interrogation is done. Like I said, it's not my place to say anything more about Nicole, as she's actually a very good person who has nothing to do with this. She was just backing me up because nobody else from Comicity is currently active in RP circles. Most of Comicity's patrons quit RPing altogether in 2001 or 2002 after Eric/Nonpariel hacked the site. I knew nobody on HORP would believe me unless I had something/someone to back it up, so that's why I asked Nicole to step in. That was entirely my fault and I accept responsibility.
However...
That doesn't make anything I've said about Comicity any less true. Everything I said regarding Dai Kaiou Shin (Andy), Shin Gouki Z (Kenshiro), Shin Gouki Z (Eric/Nonpariel) and the Z Senshi clan of Comicity is 100% true.
By the way, I just realised how stupid this makes Lysander seem right now. He claims that he spoke to Kenshiro on AIM recently and that Kenshiro told him he hated me. But if that was true (which it isn't, Kenshiro is still one of my BEST friends even though he no longer RP's), then that means I could've just invited him to HORP instead of asking Nicole to step in. So why did I bring her into it? Because, obviously, NOBODY (not even Ken) is still around from Comicity.
So in exposing my own lies, I'm also exposing yours.
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Post by Darth on Oct 18, 2012 11:50:32 GMT -5
HORP is so full of hypocrites and bullshit fallacies that I can't believe ANYONE here would even stoop so low as to accuse me of doing the same thing. Maybe it's because you've actually been proven multiple times to be a liar.. so it's not hard to accuse you of it. Also, you still haven't proven that anything I've posted is any of those things.. probably because you can't. Correction, you're singing a different tune. There's no proof that you aren't just lying more, because everything you're saying is still unsubstantiated. At best, you are coming clean. At worst, you're just admitting to some lies and making up more. I would assume the latter, since you keep blowing smoke out of your ass. Prove I've lied on HORP. I mean, you can't because I haven't, but okay. The only reason I'm hounding you - aside from thinking it's funny - is that you're too dense to learn any other way. You're incapable of reason (which I tried to use with you on Guild), so the only answer is to keep shoving the bullshit you post right back under your nose until you get tired of the smell and either go away, or stop acting like a cunt.
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Post by Lys' on Oct 18, 2012 12:46:27 GMT -5
I gave up actually using logic and obvious facts to prove you were lying a long time ago, Wesley, like the moment you turned Republican and began ignoring the facts in favor of your own stupidity.
Yeah, I made the shit about Kenshiro not liking you up. It was funny, too, to see the way you reacted to the comment. I'm a troll, Wesley, and I'm damn good at it. Look at how many threads you've put up in response to me, how many responses you've made simply because I wanted you to. You're too easy.
Furthermore, you call what I do in RP fighting, as you so eloquently put it, "bullshit". Please, if you would, show me an example of this "bullshit". Even one from another website. Show me one fight where I argued or insulted a person I was fighting when it wasn't warranted and a measured, appropriate response to something that was done to me first.
You can't.
You never will be able to.
Just like you can never find any proof that Darth is lying, you'll never prove I'm actually telling a lie I expect you to believe (since 99% of what I say in response to you is just a troll to show you how fucking stupid you are to begin).
Face it, Wesley, you can try all you want to glorify the old days - and they should be held up as something worthwhile; I enjoyed them as much as the rest of you did, though we come from two completely different worlds. I, having spent most of the late 90s and early 2000s on forums, while you guys went to chats.
But don't use those old days and old ways in a feeble attempt to make yourself something better than you are, maybe you went undefeated for a moderate length of time in Comcity, and you can be proud of that; but don't breach it to the point of arrogance in such an obscene manner.
I've not been beaten in a legitimate RM T1 fight in over five years, despite fighting at least one fight a week in the style up until just last year. You don't see me going to website where people don't even know me, and trying to use it as a way to lord it over their heads that I'm somehow better than them.
I might be the only person in history who can prove he 5-0'd MG (according to MG, anyway), and I do brag about that one to the people here; because that means something to them, but you don't see me going to RPGuild and bragging about how I 5-0'd someone in a speed fight more than half a year ago.
Your arrogance, at its current level, is neither earned or warranted. Your baseless attempts at negating the fact that the times have changed, that fighting has changed; and you can't keep up with the game anymore, doesn't change the fact that the game exists - and is just as popular as it has always been.
I was pretty well done making fun of you, and using the words you said to prove how stupid you actually were when you finally confessed to lying; but then you had to go and start slandering my name again (though it's technically libel). If you haven't noticed, I've never -once- hounded you. I respond when you say something about me that isn't true, make you look like a moron, and move on. If you continue to respond, and continue looking like a moron while responding; I'll continue to wreck your shit.
It's just that damn simple.
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Post by D on Oct 19, 2012 1:14:21 GMT -5
Now see... THAT is understandable.
THAT may be... But just because something can't be proven, doesn't mean it's necessari;y untrue.
True, I have lied about many things in the past. BUT, so have you, AND so has just about everyone else on this forum. Not everything I ever said was a lie though and although some things may be difficult to believe - coming from a person who admits he is a liar about certain things - I do still believe that RP Fighters are innocent until proven guilty.
The only reason I continuously allow you to hound me is NOT because I'm as gullible as you think. I'm quite capable of reasoning, you just fail to understand that, and would rather hound me into the ground. It's the same bullshit that the aristocracy does to the lower classes. They always end up like a bunch of hypocrites who pretend like their shit don't stink. But I allow it because I know that eventually, just by you talking, that the truth will be revealed... Eventually.
And here's a perfect example... I quote:
LOL... You see?
So let's see, I'm the gullible one in this situation because I allow you to keep trolling me. But so far you have admitted that HORP is a bogus site which has nothing to do with RP History, created just to boost your guys' ego. You've admitted to trolling me, even though you deny it on several other occassions. And you also just admitted to lying.
So tell me... which of us is gullible?
ALL the time...
You're a hypocrite. I won't even go there, because you pretty much just threw yourself under the bus just now with that statement. I don't have to prove anything. You're doing that for me every time you don't carefully choose your words.
LOL... Again, you fail to think before you speak.
Now THIS... I can agree with.
And I'm sorry, I know I haven't been 100% honest, but neither have 99.9% of you. I'm not trying to justify my reasons, I have no reason for being so foolish. But neither do most of you, so why hound me for it? I admit that I've been arrogant, and wrongly so. But don't throw stones at me if you live in a glass house. Nobody here is innocent. We all know that. Let's just put this bullshit behind us. What do you say?
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Post by Darth on Oct 19, 2012 2:43:41 GMT -5
THAT may be... But just because something can't be proven, doesn't mean it's necessari;y untrue. Uh, it does when it comes to specific claims. You claimed "everyone" on HoRP is a fraud and/or lies about their roleplaying, or that they're hypocritical. You cannot prove your claim. Ergo, it's invalid. That's very, very, very basic logic. That isn't to say that everything unproven is untrue, and your response doesn't even apply. If I say "I won x fight at y forums against z fighter." That's a specific claim. If someone refutes it, the burden of proof is on me. If I can't prove it, my claim is invalid until it is proven. Just like "innocent until proven guilty", a claim is "invalid until proven." Your claim falls is invalid because the burden of proof lies on you to prove your claim, but you can't because no such evidence to support it exists. What is basic format of debate and/or argument. I know I told you to google Toulmin argument before, but you clearly have yet to do so. Can you prove it? I've been telling you to do so, and yet you haven't. Wonder why? You don't "allow" it. There's no "allowing" on your part, because you couldn't stop me even if you tried your damnedest, because you have tried in the past and every time you did I just thrashed you. See: RPGuild. See: you as Nathan/Dexter. See: most other times I've responded in your threads. Wrong, again. And - as always - I have proof, whereas you've developed the unfortunate habit of never having evidence for any claim you make. Proof of me trying to have a completely rational discussion with you, and you acting like a complete fucking douchebag because you're precious little ego got bruised. Yep, you're really capable of reason, between all that ego-stroke, getting upset, and misinterpreting my posts. At that point, you just consistently became LESS reasonable in each interaction. Like a Sicilian, when you get mean, I'll just get meaner. Don't like it? Stop acting like a cunt and I'll stop treating you like one. The more you act like one.. the more I'll keep thrashing you. It's not that hard of a concept to grasp. If you had been reasonable throughout our interactions - or, in fact, ever since you came back to HoRP, for example - then you would get a reasonable response from me. Except you're not reasonable. You're too egotistical for it; at best you have a few flashes in the pan where you can stow the bullshit for five seconds, but because you're so defensive over the image you've built up of yourself as this bullshit "grandmaster" of "combat roleplay history" or something equally absurd, you never get around to being reasonable long enough to convince anyone that you aren't a douchebag. It has nothing to do with my "understanding" or lack thereof, so much as you've rarely - if ever - shown yourself to be reasonable, so I have absolutely no reason to believe that you are a reasonable individual. If you're capable of being reasonable.. then be reasonable. Stop acting like a stupid cunt if you aren't one. Wow, you're either dumb or not at all observant. That's Lysander, guy. I'm Darth. His name has eight letters. Mine has five. Unlike you, we both have registered accounts here.. because, you know, neither of us needs to constantly create new "identities" to make ourselves look better, like you do (i.e. creating a "student" identity for yourself). Feel free to ask a mod to check our IPs, or we can post our Facebook pages (mine's set to private so you faggots can't go jerk off to pictures of me even if you want to). You mean Lysander said that, right? Correction, to boost MG's ego. It says so specifically in the quote from Lysander. It doesn't mention Lysander, or me, or even anyone who actually likes MG. I like how you continue to try and lie and/or purposefully misinterpret what somebody says despite claiming that you're trying to be "honest" or something. Doesn't make you look like a hypocrite at all. Actually, Lysander admitted to those two things. I've only admitted to taking the piss for fun, which isn't really trolling because there's no deception or lead-on, it's just me being an asshole. But then again, your reading comprehension apparently shoots down as your ego skyrockets, since you didn't even realize that you're responding to me, but quoting from Lysander to argue against me. Apparently you, since you actually responded to my post with shit Lysander said. Yeah, you sort of tripped all over yourself there, sort of like you did with the whole "liar = dishonest = untrustworthy" logic you bandied around earlier. The rest of your post I don't even have to bother responding to, because you were quoting Lysander's post. At this point, I'm pretty much shooting fish in a fucking barrel, man. inb4 Lysander and I are the same people. Like I said, check our IPs, and I'm sure we could provide other pieces of proof to show we're different people. inb4 we post/act/write the same, we don't. Like I said: if you're capable of being reasonable, then be reasonable. You've acted like a complete, ripe cunt since you came back to this site, proclaiming this and that and shooting off accusations without nary a single shred of evidence to back anything. If you're capable of acting otherwise, do it, because so far there's nothing to suggest you can. Like I also said: keep acting like a cunt, and I'll keep treating you like one. Don't like it? Don't know what to tell you. I've already shown - such as on RPGuild - that I can be reasonable, but I've got no reason to deal reasonably with someone who's a complete fucking twat. If you can get your head out of your ass and not act like a ponce, then I'll stop treating you like one. Until then, you can expect to keep getting clowned any time I happen to check the site and feel like poking holes in your posts. I mean, it's not like my posts are even close to being refuted, so.. I've got no reason to stop responding when I find it funny. If you want to keep acting like a douche, then like I said, I'll keep treating you like one. As soon as you can act like a reasonably intelligent, mature individual.. then that is what I'll treat you as.
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Post by D on Oct 19, 2012 3:10:27 GMT -5
Okay, how is 'anyone' supposed to tell you two apart? His name has eight letters and yours has five? Really? Because on my screen, both of your names are blank/invisible/nameless. Could it be your font color? The layout I'm using? Or are you just playing games and talking out your ass?
One other thing I can't prove, but that I 'know' for a fact is that both you Darth and Lysander are currently or were once friends with Nonpariel and that you're all involved in a huge conspiracy of some sorts. I know you were or still are all members of a group known as The Legacy, which, like the Illuminati, cannot be trusted.
Also, who's to say that Nonpariel/Darth/Lysander aren't really all just the same person using different IP's and identities? I know Eric has a history of doing such things, and I already showed everyone how that can be done, given the 3 or 4 different IP's used by myself over the past few months. So really that proves nothing.
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Post by Darth on Oct 19, 2012 3:49:11 GMT -5
Okay, how is 'anyone' supposed to tell you two apart? His name has eight letters and yours has five? Really? Because on my screen, both of your names are blank/invisible/nameless. Could it be your font color? The layout I'm using? Or are you just playing games and talking out your ass? It's the layout you're using; I get the same thing on my phone and tablet. Names are invisible for me. Actually register an account and it should fix it because you can change the forum layout. The font color has changed though, Lysander's name is red and mine is yellow. No idea why. But that doesn't excuse confusing two posts when posts are clearly separated by the forum layout. Incorrect. I didn't even meet Lysander or Nonpareil til late-2009/early-2010 on the GT forums, and I frankly never thought of the guy as being anything other than a douche - kind of like how you've been acting. Hey, maybe YOU'RE Nonpareil. I also never thought his "title" was legitimate, and told him as such over IRC and on the GT forums. Proof? Check the GT forums, they're still accessible last I checked. Point being, I've never exchanged more than a couple of posts with Nonpareil, and I didn't meet him OR Lysander until late-2009/early-2010 when I made an account on GT to communicate with Lysander's Heaven or Hell 2010 team because I was head judge. You can see as such by checking my profile on the GT where I have only two fights - both in 2010. You can ask Lysander, or Ran, or Guts, or Alucroas, or Jace, or Beramode, or QB (QBSuperstar03, assuming you remember him from Gateway, where he's presently a mod - you said you and your super secret clubhouse of hardcore internet hackerz hacked a ton of sites, so I'm sure you can get ahold of him, right?), for example. None of them knew me prior to the 2010 HoH tournament. That is also the extent of my association with Lysander, really. He joined a tournament I was the head judge of. After that, he and I both frequented GT for a bit, and then he joined the GTB. We're both members of a few sites like Gateway and AL, but we don't associate there. I don't even post on either site, and/or haven't posted in a long time. We've never even fought, yet alone long enough to associate beyond being acquaintances. Of course, you don't even provide any evidence OR reasoning to back up your claim, so you may as well be outright lying. You can't even explain how you "know" this. Which is because you can't. Because you're lying. Big whoop, someone who has a persistent habit of lying is lying some more. Is that even surprising? Maybe you've got me mistaken for someone else? Or maybe you're just a lying, egotistical cunt who's grasping at straws because someone's been slapping you around like a red-headed stepchild and it makes you butthurt. Face it. You don't know shit - at this point, you're just making it up as you go along because you're precious little ego can't handle getting bruised when someone steps up and puts you in your place. Prove it. Too bad you can't prove it. I don't have to prove that I'm not Lysander or Nonpareil - unless you provide proof to back your claim, it's invalid and ergo requires no refutation. You can say I'm Lysander, or MG, or Mitt-mother-fucking-Romney, but it doesn't mean shit until you can provide an ounce of evidence to support the claim. So you can either put up or shut up. Then again, you've yet to provide evidence for a single claim so far.. so why would this be any different?
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Post by Lys' on Oct 19, 2012 17:04:34 GMT -5
I hate you, Darth. I was the one using simple logic and facts to prove Wesley wrong way before you showed up, and now you've come in and started doing the same thing. Not only the same thing, but you're doing such a good job of it that I've completely lost my motivation and desire to do it altogether. Mostly because every point I would make, you seem to be making before me.
I hate you.
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