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Post by Lys' on Feb 28, 2012 15:38:11 GMT -5
Cloud has the logs from the fight, showing I won it 5-0.
He can post them when he validates, if he wants.
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Post by Johnny King on Feb 28, 2012 15:49:23 GMT -5
Here are the logs, using the chat REAL TIME Log feature, as you can see, you have to start at the bottom and work your way up with the logs, due to the fact that it keeps them that way. - As you can see, Lysander Backed out of range at the start making it x 2 range. - Triple prep'd , made MG brain dead (equivalent of paralysis, 3-0) then aaa'd , hit him, and followed with another hit making it 5-0. Then he might even hit again after that, making it more. Not sure stopped counting. This was my evaluation, I will read it again to confirm.
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Post by Johnny King on Feb 29, 2012 12:49:14 GMT -5
MG has yet to speak, I will verify if this was a title match before I change the rankings. Since Lysander isn't the number one contender. - I am not sure on what they agreed to before the match, I also have 3 other screenshots if there is fault found that states this match wasn't finished but all I see here is a definite win for Lysander.
But again, nobody has ever bypassed more than one range in a single post, it's never been legal for as long as I have been around. Not even in any era. Then to throw an attack onto the same post, thats three actions in a single post.
Plus this is a logic match, and even without the paralysis Lysander won it in the logs following.
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Post by Lys' on Feb 29, 2012 13:51:58 GMT -5
He agreed to put his title on the line before we fought, both yesterday and the day before - where we agreed we would fight.
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Post by MG on Mar 1, 2012 18:24:13 GMT -5
I've been reluctant to post in this thread because I already know what it will lead to. It seems the majority of fights of late have devolved into a bunch of arguments about this, that, and the third. Instead of coming here and participating in something we all enjoy, its like now this shit is over competitive and full of egos. Some of you guys are egotistical when you haven't even put the work in. You gotta put that shit in check, it turns people off. I'm even toning my ego down.
What this all comes down to is different understandings of the rules. Cloud you're quick to say that such and such was never legal in any era. How do you know? Did you fight in all eras? I didn't even meet you until 2009. I retired in 2008. I don't think you're qualified to say what was and what was not legal where I was fighting at. On top of that, I never said you were the judge so don't come in here trying to make an "official" ruling. You don't have that power. Lysander, even the fact you said "Cloud judge" and I said "go" still doesn't mean that I agreed on him to judge. In that case, you agreed on the score of 4-0 which lead to 5-4 after I hit you 5 consecutive times.
This whole range thing baffles me. You guys are saying you can't AAA if he's 2x oor. Where does this come from? Where is that written at? It doesn't make sense. You can AAA regardless of how many times he's OOR, as long as you have enough words. Why would the rules change with him going out of range one more time? I disagree with that. I don't care how many people agree with what you're saying. That doesn't make you right. I'm not even necessarily saying you're wrong; what I'm saying is that the rules don't say what I I did was wrong, I feel like what I did was legal, and I'm unfamiliar with what you're talking about. That's why the rules have to be fixed.
On top of that, you can't say one part of my post is legal and the other part is void. If it's void its void. You were saying my AAA got me in range once, but the attack part was void. I've never heard of half of someone's post being void and the other half being legal.
Then, one of your preps was actually you ranging the 'magic', which leaves you with just two preps. Look, I could keep doing this but it's getting old. I have never validated a fight between myself and someone else when there was any controversy. If a guy has a valid reason to feel like I didn't beat him then I didn't beat him in my eyes. I have never validated a fight between two other fighters when there was any controversy. I will update the rules to avoid problems like this in the future, but as of now you can't legally prove me wrong.
If you truly feel that you are the better fighter then we can fight again. If not, don't worry about it.
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Post by MG on Mar 3, 2012 21:20:08 GMT -5
This is a bit late but oh well. Figured I'd respond anyway.
False, I'm not unable to accept losses nor do I make excuses every time I'm beaten.
If we're going to go by that logic, I'd win the fight with a score of 5-4 since Lys' agreed to keep fighting from 4-0(his lead). Remember, we were both ignoring you because you weren't actually the judge. I'm not trying to give myself a win. I don't count fights with controversial endings as wins for me or anyone else. I have posts validating 63 wins.
It's not insanely outrageous. Apparently you have to range projectiles in a separate post when you're OOR, especially 2x OOR. Lol, it doesn't have to be in range to be shot? Now you're contradicting yourself. In our most recent fight, you tried to say the chi I shot to your back was void because I was out of range. So now that's legal? Lol. Anything to see MG lose.
I don't have time for all of this soap opera drama. What is this, high school? "If you wanna hang with the cool kids, come over here!" What the hell? You have too much invested in this. It's a game. You shouldn't care about it to the point where you actually get emotional. Good luck with your anti-MG crusade, even though my DNA is splattered all over your site.
Had the AAA been counted as legal, Lysander would've lost 5-2. What are you reading man? I landed the AAA. That would negate his preps, subtracting the blow he landed for 3 points. It's obvious I thought the attack was legal; no hits had been landed on either man at that point and there was no pressure on me. Why would I choose to AAA if it was illegal, when I could just move IR in two separate posts? Come on man, think.
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Post by Lys' on Mar 3, 2012 21:37:42 GMT -5
You can't AAA 2x in a single post. Everyone, ever, has said you were invalid in even trying to do it. GG.
Your biased bullshit is rampant throughout this site. You don't have 63 validated wins, you don't even have 63 fights on this entire forum. We're done with your bullshit. Cloud, myself, everyone. We're done with your ignorant, idiotic "I can't handle the fact I lost so I'm going to make up rules as I go along" banter.
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