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Post by MG on Mar 29, 2020 11:17:45 GMT -5
I'm going through one of my laptops and deleting old files and I come across this write up. It was written in 2018 so it's a bit outdated. Prettz and Violet should probably be included as well. Enjoy.
Evolution
This thread has been a long time coming. From talking to various people, it seems like there is confusion regarding who’s the fastest and which generation of fighters were faster. I’ve finally stumbled upon some free time, so I figured I’d provide some clarity.
Throughout history, there have been three special fighters who have set the bar when it comes to pure speed. I know it seems like there should be more, but the reality is, there isn’t. These fighters, within a pure speed context, have accomplished things that no one before them had accomplished. We’ll refer to these fighters as hyper fighters (think how in the car world there are regular cars, then super cars such as an SV Aventador, 911 Turbo S, Audi R8 V10 Plus, then there are hyper cars – LaFerraris, Porsche 918 Spyder, P1 McLaren). Let’s get into this short list.
MG MG was the first hyper fighter to ever exist in roleplay fighting. MG attained one second connections in 2002 whilst typing with two fingers when nobody else was exceeding three second connections. A good fighter knows that’s a -huge- disparity. It was to the point that MG couldn’t be touched, let alone defeated. This is the time period where MG went undefeated for a year and fighters were rarely able to land a hit on him. Being able to land a hit on MG was seen as a huge accomplishment and a win in itself. This led to MG departing for a year in an effort to allow others to catch up. After returning, he was never able to reach that speed again.
Kael Upon returning, it became evident to MG that Kael had ascended to the #1 spot. At this point, Kael had entire chats hailing him as the greatest ever. This was short lived, however, as Kael was beaten by MG in his first fight back. This was 2004ish – before Kael posted the fastest connection in history. Somewhere in 2005-2006ish, in an AIM chat, Kael reached instantaneous connections, or same second connections. He would post an attack, then almost post the same attack again but he’d add a few more words onto the end to make it a connection. It was so fast that it was as if he posted both simultaneously. This is the record for T2, as you can’t get faster than attacking and connecting in the same second (we could granularize this to tenths of a second but its unnecessary).
Cloud Filth Cloud has also reached the pinnacle of speed fighting – same second connections, but has modernized it and applied it to S20. In doing so, he has matched Kael’s speed and maybe even exceeded it.
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Bice
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The Connoisseur of Speed-Fighting.
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Post by Bice on Apr 1, 2020 3:18:35 GMT -5
You're damn right I should of been included. You just mentioned a bunch of people that're currently irrelevant compared to me in speed. Kael had an opportunity to fight me, he didn't take it, it's still here on these boards, I don't want to hear otherwise. Cloud has never beaten me, yet I've beaten him multiple times, yet somehow he's heralded as the fastest by you? You're not anywhere near my speed currently, and you know it. You're all still ducking the smoke cause you know I've advanced to a level of speed that far exceeds anything I've done in the past or that any of you could of been capable of doing yourselves. This post alone is the biggest spit in the face you could of given me. How could you ignore me and then put yourself in this list when you're continuously inactive with barely anything to show for it? I've even been more active than Cloud. I took less breaks than anyone else in the game. I trained on holidays. I gave up everything to train for this nonsense. Not only have I been the most active, I've been the most successful. My only loss came to you MG when I didn't type in homerow, and this was MANY MANY YEARS AGO, again, I was at a speed rating that's -IRRELEVANT- compared to what I can do now. My speed-fights have shown it, my speed-tests show it. The only two people who can compete with me on typing test sites are Kyo and Prettz, so how is this even a thing?
You're going to continue to ignore me. You all drove me to this in the first place. You're clearly conspiring together, and MG you've clearly incorporated Cloud into the fold of your circle-jerk team. You just tried to state how fast Cloud's S20 is, when I have screened evidence of him admitting he's not as fast as me in styles of S15 and above so please save it and cut the lying shit out for once MG. I'm the best when it came to any style in S15 or above. I've gladly given Cloud all the praise in the world for his T2'ing capabilities. I've never said he isn't fast. He's one of the fastest. He's one of the best. But not THE best, not THE fastest. How many fucking years is it going to take for you people to be honest with yourselves for once? Numbers don't lie. My wins against him don't lie. My ability to dominate the scene will not lie if you people stopped running and gave me a chance when I'm at my best, at not at my weakest. That's all you're going to do, MG, you're going to run from me. I'll even put a $1,000 down (no lie), real MONEY, and the loser has to pay up. Because I've got money, and I'm willing to burn it on a chance like this. Cause you'll be one of my easiest wins of all time. That's the only reason Cloud's chat-site was being created in the first place, was to lure you there and batter you around like the slow chump you really are. Cloud knows you're slow, Prettz does, and I do. How're you even mentioning yourself in this list when you're slower than Prettz? That list should be ME, Cloud, and Prettz.
I'm honestly convinced you're a 30+ year old troll with the same gimmick and never evolving. Your concept of "evolution" is a bit skewed my friend. If you think that list summarizes the culmination of what was the best in speed-fighting, then you're bloody wrong. Me, Cloud and Prettz were if there's going to be 3 people mentioned. Not you, not Kael, not Ukyo, not Black Michael, not Lance, not nobody else. And here I stand at the end of it all willing to prove myself at all times, but you're going to run like you always have. You're a coward. I'm mortally and morbidly disgusted you tried comparatively making an example out of Cloud's speed in S20 as a whole, without even factoring mine. There's literally articles on here written by others about how substantial my increase in speed and accuracy has become, nobody is denying it nor has been able to.
Cloud, if you're seeing this. Speak up for fucking once and do the right thing. This is deplorable. I know you're getting hard over someone writing "fastest fighter of all time" in regards to you, but by MG of all people? Is this what you've been reduced to? You're now another standardized agent of MG's? I don't know if you're in on this, I don't know, I won't pretend to know. But this is too comical. The very thing you feared would happen to you is now happening to me, isn't that sweet irony? You've got an edge up on me. You've got someone capable of lying effortlessly on a dime's notice that you're the fastest of all time, and the greatest ever, and all of that other malarky. I know him referring to you as the fastest of all time won't ENTIRELY sit well with you, cause we both know otherwise, and all my wins against you will continue to say otherwise. Apparently I'm slower for being the winner consecutively.
I lose only 1 time to MG and he rides off into the sunsent, running away for all time, I should of figured. I never thought you'd be the one speed-fighter in all of existence that would only be willing to fight someone ONCE, just ONCE. And you caught me at my WORST, MY VERY WORST. You didn't catch me at my best. You didn't catch me anywhere near that, and you know it. You're not "War Ready," you're not a "King" of fighting. You don't strive for greatness, you strive for mediocrity. You're clearly not a winner anymore, cause you focus on Cloud more than yourself, and you haven't attempted to win at ANYTHING in a long time. You don't want smoke with me, cause I'll beat you worse than Prettz did back in Shadow of Ruin, why? CAUSE I'M FASTER THAN THAT NOW. You can't even put yourself on this list, again, Prettz is faster than you in every style in every aspect of the way. He's better than you in speed-fighting, he's better than you in typing. I am too. So is Cloud. I don't see why this smokescreen effect you've got going on has to continue. Why're you this delusional?
I'll be around and leave all my info waiting for you to shut me up, OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER. Becuse you best believe, I'm going to take all the extra measures to be amped up and prepared for anyone who wants to talk shit and think they can beat me. Even if Coronavirus struck me ill, and my fingers were broken, I'm sure I'd still have more WILL POWER and self-belief to do something as basic as a speed-fight.
Do you know why Cloud wouldn't agree with this list? Do you know why this list is garbage even to his standards? Because you just tried to say Cloud and Kael were the same speed. Cloud as he is now, 1 year ago, 2 years ago, even 5 years ago is still faster than Kael EVER was. Because I have enough respect for his speed-fighting abilities to say that much. Even if I don't like Cloud right now, I'm not going to lie about him either. He's faster than Kael, and it's undisputed. So if you're going to be caping for Cloud's favor, you'd best remove that insulting inaccurate detail.
You didn't simply leave for a year to "allow" others to catch up by the way, there were individuals around fully capable of contesting you. Prettz was rising up, and you ran. Rightly so. The funny thing is MG, you talk about being absent for a year and being miraculously effected by it to the degree you're unable to return to your "former" speed. But how come me and Cloud or Prettz can take such long breaks and not be effected by it as heavily as you? Well, for one, we reached a level further than you ever did, I'm sorry if that hurts and the truth is unfathomable or it stings (you won't fight me so I can't prove it you you, z z z ) but we did get that far where we could take breaks without it hindering us.
How come I never got the credit I deserved? Why was it always left out? I know I never pressed to stand at the forefront as intensely as Cloud did, but I didn't think that'd make me go any less unnoticed for how long I was dominating the scene for. Why is it there's even video of Cloud saying he can't fight me unless he's at his absolute best and he's drunk? Because I'm that damn good. I know I talk shit, I know I come off arrogant, I know I come off cocky. But it's all for good reason at this point. I have to keep speaking it. And MG, you know I know boxing, and you watch enough boxing to know what ducking or running looks like. You've been pulling this for years with no reasonable excuse, nothing valid or viable to back your point. If I was so easy, if I was so insignificant, you'd of dealt with me sooner. But why not? Well, you couldn't beat Prettz back in Shadow of Ruin, and now I'm better than caliber he was at back then, so what chance would you REALISTICALLY hold against me? There's nobody you can hide behind anymore to save you. The only thing you've got left is your admin powers on this forum, and that's literally it. Why can't you just shut me up? I'm not even on this top list you made, so what's the problem? I'm not even good enough to be on this even though "Violet should probably be included as well." That's the thing, you called me VIOLET. Nobody fucking knows me as that anymore, not Prettz, not Cloud, not Kyo, not nobody. That's how drastic of a difference it is. You're remembering me from an irrelevant time period, IRRELEVANT. I don't know how many times I have to say it, you beat the weakest version of me out there. You beat me when my speed was 15% of what I have now. I'm not boasting. I'm not lying. I'm not making anything up. I'm THAT much faster now.
Again, I'm willing to put up more money than anyone else in this whole community. I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is. Are you? Is anyone else? Absolutely fucking not. And I'd love to see one of you prove me wrong. What all do you have better to do anyway? I can't even go to a boxing gym cause everything is closed down. We're stuck for this Corona thing for the time being. I'll take your petty excuse for needing time to prepare, you probably need a whole month in advance MG, don't you?
I was so done with all of this that I gave away all my powers and money at Xat a couple months ago, and severed so many ties it's not even funny. I keep trying to give this shit up and not care one bit about it. But when I see an ignorantly comprised post like this on here, it gets me fuming, I won't lie. Yeah, you got me tight. You got me feeling "salty," if it was your intention you beautifully succeeded. I wholeheartedly applaud you, you got me rattled up. You've got me more fueled than I have been in a long time. CLEARLY nothing I did for ALL THOSE YEARS counted for SHIT. There STILL isn't a single fighter in history to of redesigned, reworded, and reformatted the very way in which they typed to get better in speed-fighting. I learned homerow in the later stages of speed-fighting when AMICUS told me it would be impossible, foolish, and I'd end up slower than I was previously if I pursued trying to learn to homerow. But I had at least one person who had faith in me, which was Prettz. He instilled me with the belief that if I learned to homerow, I would exponentially increase my speed given how fast I already was with just two bloody index fingers. Nobody has done what I've done. Nobody. Not one single person. Not you, not Cloud, not Ukyo, not Lance, not Prettz, not Amicus, not Vine, not Kael, not nobody but me.
No one on this site will ever truly comprehend the extent to which I'd sacrificed and devoted my life to becoming a better typist, writer and speed-fighter overall. I think the only person that can even understand an inkling of what I'm saying is Cloud incidentally. Nobody was as imbued and immersed in being their character and themselves all in one blend as much as me and him were. I was more subtle than Cloud, but my immersion was disturbingly deeper than I realized. I didn't just make the name "Bice," I literally became Bice, in body and mind. You won't get that. And it's not for you to get.
Just fight me MG. Just fight. No more running. No more hiding. No more excuses. I don't want to hear about your life struggles, cause we all have them. I don't want to hear you're too busy, cause I've got just as many important things to be focusing on just like anybody else especially in these times. Just fight me. Fight me. Just... fight me. It's that simple. It will be no longer than 5 minutes of my time or yours, I promise. I won't even run away when I beat you in the cowardly fashion that you've done me in. I'll repectfully grant you as many rematches as you want even when I batter you senseless.
You're not a speed-fighter, you're not a boxer, and you're not a fighter in general. You're a coward, MG. Always have been, always will be. Prove me wrong, you know I'D LOVE for you to give me the opportunity. It's not even about expecting a challenge out of you, picking a bone with Cloud or Prettz would be more productive in terms of being a challenge in a fight than bothering with you. Here's boxing terminology that hopefully you'll understand, you're nothing but a journeyman compared to me now. And at your best you were a gatekeeper in status.
If you can't beat me, if you can't beat Prettz, if you can't beat Cloud, how in the world are you on this list? It's a good thing you labeled the category at the bottom as "Opinions", cause that's all it can be. If we're mentioning someone who's the fastest in pure speed outside of speed-fighting itself, you'll be surprised to find out it isn't me, Prettz or Cloud, or you. It's a young lad named Kyo who unfortunately never could apply himself to Eden's Era or anything outside of Xat's rulesets. He was remarkably fast, but if you can't apply the speed correctly, then it doesn't matter.
Again, I don't know how you still include yourself on these lists MG, when is the last time you even fought? Even if I'm not in this list, Prettz should be, especially cause you know for a fact he's bested you and is clearly faster than you ever were.
You're some Adrien Broner acting ass fool right now. Looking like a clown out here, MG.
Bice#3556 there's a discord for you, MG. Fight me. Cut this sucka' shit out. Tired of you running hoes.
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Post by Prettz on Apr 1, 2020 14:35:42 GMT -5
MG, you vanished for a decade and tried to piece together the history of speed fighting. It's no wonder you're so detatched from reality .. you weren't part of it. I can't begin to list the plateaus that were ascended, the records that were shattered, the fundamentals to core rp that were altered in response to the last generation of gods. History should have ended then -- and it would have if not for your nauseating interpretation of it years later. It actually sickens me to read posts like this.
If you want to rewrite history, Bice is giving you the chance. Take it.
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Post by Kyokuorradurga on Apr 1, 2020 15:31:30 GMT -5
i'm unsure if i've seen anyone aside from bice or prettz that's dually fast and eloquent. no insult meant for anyone reading who feels they are on their level
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Post by MG on Apr 2, 2020 8:10:51 GMT -5
You're damn right I should of been included. You just mentioned a bunch of people that're currently irrelevant compared to me in speed. You can’t be serious. It doesn’t matter who’s irrelevant to you currently – two of the people listed are retired. Kael had an opportunity to fight me, he didn't take it, it's still here on these boards, I don't want to hear otherwise. Kael would fight anyone at anytime. Not sure I believe that he backed down from a challenge. Cloud has never beaten me, yet I've beaten him multiple times Sounds like a lie. yet somehow he's heralded as the fastest by you? He was heralded as the fastest by me in 2018, yes. That’s preceded by the word “Opinions”, in case you missed it. Do you understand the point of this thread? It’s entitled “Evolution”, meaning it documents the progression of hyper speed fighters. Whether you’re faster now or have beaten someone is irrelevant, as it charters the history of fighters in this category. Now, I didn’t feel like formally adding you and Prettz (this was written in 2018), hence me name dropping the both of you. You guys admittedly deserve to be in this list. Send me a write up and I’ll add you both. You're not anywhere near my speed currently, and you know it. You're all still ducking the smoke cause you know I've advanced to a level of speed that far exceeds anything I've done in the past or that any of you could of been capable of doing yourselves. Your insecurity is embarrassing. You should check your PMs. You're being manipulated right now. This post alone is the biggest spit in the face you could of given me. How could you ignore me and then put yourself in this list when you're continuously inactive with barely anything to show for it? Lol you're missing the point. I've even been more active than Cloud. I took less breaks than anyone else in the game. I trained on holidays. I gave up everything to train for this nonsense. Not only have I been the most active, I've been the most successful. You seem upset – take a deep breath. You’re usually sharper and more composed than this, this is embarrassing. What are you trying to prove by bringing up your level of activity? I owned the game taking year long breaks. In fact it was after at least a year break that I came back and beat you, after you were once again claiming to be a big bad wolf. You’re hurting your case with this. If I haven’t fought since 2012, and you’ve been training nonstop (lol), you should be able to beat me Violet. My only loss came to you MG Violet, are you saying you’ve only lost once throughout your career and that was to me? You just tried to state how fast Cloud's S20 is, when I have screened evidence of him admitting he's not as fast as me in styles of S15 and above so please save it and cut the lying shit out for once MG. I'm the best when it came to any style in S15 or above. Sounds like a one dimensional fighter. I've gladly given Cloud all the praise in the world for his T2'ing capabilities. I've never said he isn't fast. He's one of the fastest. He's one of the best. But not THE best, not THE fastest. Fair. In 2018, was he the fastest? I recall being told by him that he surpassed Prettz, and I’m not sure if you were super good yet. That's all you're going to do, MG, you're going to run from me. It’s like you can’t comprehend the concept of retired. Your lack of security and the fact you keep bringing up excuses as to why you lost to me makes me less inclined to fight you. You've got someone capable of lying effortlessly on a dime's notice that you're the fastest of all time, and the greatest ever, and all of that other malarky. Never said he was the greatest ever. Pump your brakes. I lose only 1 time to MG and he rides off into the sunsent, running away for all time, I should of figured. I never thought you'd be the one speed-fighter in all of existence that would only be willing to fight someone ONCE, just ONCE. And you caught me at my WORST, MY VERY WORST. You didn't catch me at my best. As a fellow fight fan, you know how disheartening it is when a champion loses and makes up excuses, cue your boy Deontay Wilder following his fight with Fury. You say the guy who beat you was better that day and that's it. Anything else is against the code. Are you aware I was never able to avenge my lost to Flik? I never bitched about it the way you are – I learned from it, gave him his just due, and went on to build a legacy that surpassed his. If you think you’re truly greater than me, you wouldn’t need to lure me out of retirement. It’d be so obvious that you wouldn’t care if we fought or not – which is the situation between Flik and I. I don’t need to fight him again, and I continue to give him the ultimate respect to this day. You're clearly not a winner anymore, cause you focus on Cloud more than yourself, and you haven't attempted to win at ANYTHING in a long time. You don't want smoke with me, cause I'll beat you worse than Prettz did back in Shadow of Ruin, why? CAUSE I'M FASTER THAN THAT NOW. You can't even put yourself on this list, again, Prettz is faster than you in every style in every aspect of the way. He's better than you in speed-fighting, he's better than you in typing. I am too. So is Cloud. I don't see why this smokescreen effect you've got going on has to continue. Why're you this delusional? Violet can't read confirmed. But how come me and Cloud or Prettz can take such long breaks and not be effected by it as heavily as you? I’m not sure why I couldn’t return to my optimum speed. Maybe because I only used two fingers? Maybe I was worn out? Who knows. How come I never got the credit I deserved? Why was it always left out? I’m not a biased person, I will give you all of the credit you deserve. I do recall Cloud saying you’re faster than him. Again, this post is something I wrote in 2018, and I was too lazy to update it. What you should really do though instead of talking so much is record fights where you beat Cloud and Prettz. Then it’d be undisputed and not hearsay. but I didn't think that'd make me go any less unnoticed for how long I was dominating the scene for. Can anyone attest to that? Why is it there's even video of Cloud saying he can't fight me unless he's at his absolute best and he's drunk? Because I'm that damn good. I'm glad you're faster Violet. I don't doubt it, it was years ago that we fought. But when I see an ignorantly comprised post like this on here, it gets me fuming, I won't lie. Yeah, you got me tight. You got me feeling "salty," if it was your intention you beautifully succeeded. I wholeheartedly applaud you, you got me rattled up. You've got me more fueled than I have been in a long time. I just wanted to be entertained. Mission accomplished. Good to see the MG Effect still exists -- and Violet, I'm getting off track here but this is what I would do for years. Disappear (albeit, not for 8 years like this time), return, beat the new "champion" and have everyone conspiring on how to beat me. RP (speed fighting specifically) would be alive and well for a year or so before my interest waned and I disappeared again. You are talented, but to truly be #1, you have to be able to do more than type fast. You have to be able to put the entire speed fighting community on your back and keep the game afloat. Until you can do that while continuously beating all comers as the #1 fighter for years, you haven't reached GOAT level. There STILL isn't a single fighter in history to of redesigned, reworded, and reformatted the very way in which they typed to get better in speed-fighting. Teaching yourself to use homerow that late in the game is impressive and I commend you for it. I was able to hit one second connections with only two fingers though... back in 2002... and was able to still dominate the game for years after, despite fighters becoming faster while I became slower by redesigning my game, ala Floyd Mayweather... No one on this site will ever truly comprehend the extent to which I'd sacrificed and devoted my life to becoming a better typist, writer and speed-fighter overall. I think the only person that can even understand an inkling of what I'm saying is Cloud incidentally. Nobody was as imbued and immersed in being their character and themselves all in one blend as much as me and him were. I was immersed too... when I was 13. You're some Adrien Broner acting ass fool right now. Looking like a clown out here, MG. Lmfao. Legit laughed out loud. Good one. I’ve beaten you, I’ve beaten Cloud, I’ve beaten Prettz. What are you talking about? I’m glad you’ve become faster Violet but mentally you’re still not in a place where you can lead this game. I passed the torch to Prettz in 2012 and haven’t fought since then. I hoped he would keep this game we all love going, but he didn’t – Cloud did. Despite Prettz’s fighting abilities, he’s not a leader.
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Post by Stalker on Apr 3, 2020 3:08:00 GMT -5
This argument is like 9 years too late at least. I still aspire to get a girlfriend who sucks my dick like MG sucks MG's dick. #Goals
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Post by Johnny King on Apr 3, 2020 21:34:17 GMT -5
I figured I'd break my silence to give my piece on the current state of things, and address some of the concerns here. I will start by detailing why I think Bice absolutely should be considered one of the greatest fighters in the history of the game.
Back during the days of RC and early on when this forum was first getting on its feet is around the time that Violet/Bice was still building their talent and basically utilized "Chicken Pecking" and still managed to be competitive to a lot of fighters, some that are even considered "high-tier" on here.
And has also went through heavy scrutiny when risking it all by completely abandoning their style and learning Homerow, whilst still trying to stay active and compete within the community, despite dealing with ignorant fighters and corrupt staff members that altered, rejected, and even covered up many fights that took place, and the heavy lack of trust towards certain people is exactly what led to the decline of this community.
Bice probably puts in more actual training and thought into preparation than most other fighters combined. I haven't trained like that since 2009, and through sheer will and determination managed to completely revamp their typing on many levels to ultimately rise to the highest level of fighting, able to compete with even me and Prettz after we had literally completely dwarfed what was considered "the fastest" back in the days of you and Kael.
Not only does Bice have significant speed that can even greatly rival my own, but articulates and puts together posts on a much higher level than anyone I have seen all throughout history, including the likes of Vine and Amicus. (Vine wasn't even fast, come on) Out of all opponents out there, I would consider Bice the toughest challenge, and I wouldn't even consider Kael better than Lance's prime
No offense, MG, but I firmly believe I could take the Bice of today toss them back in time to your prime, Kaels prime, and Bice would undoubtedly win from what I have seen from you, Kael, Prettz, and Bice.
I am not sure where you calculated these speeds when it comes to Kael either, as I fought him all through Helion Legacy in 2009. He was very skilled in RT2A back then, but this was also when I had just returned to the game and eventually turned that rivalry from extremely competitive, to completely overwhelming him in his own style and my own before the end. There was even a bot I made in that chat that did consistent 1 second actions period (not just a connect or two) and he was incapable of defeating it, only me and Prettz managed to do so.
In 2017-2018, I was in fact reaching the most unbelievable speed that was witnessed. I never got defeated in any of the official matches that were held at Eden, and had multiple belts including the s20 belt. Me and Bice did not compete for the belt at that time as we were mostly working on other stuff. I managed to go extremely well against Prettz and Kyo (It was just a warmup though) in a 1 v 2 even. And when Jaxon arrived at the chat I am certain that I set the record for fastest fight in the history of the game. Bice did spar with me and had managed to even beat me during a spar around this time in a straight style, and despite not being official was still an unbelievable feat. Even though Blazerine literally was spamming me romantic hate messages about Bice, covering up the entire screen while I was fighting. Lmao
Far as you being a better leader than me? Yeah, not in a million years. You let this place die and ignored the corruption that was left in place by you, yourself. And I know life came up and you drifted away from the scene, and that's another point. You admit to literally having huge gaps of activity for the most part, and I have a few myself, but I have literally ran platform after platform with real money paid, all done professionally with excellent software, chat coding, fighting bots, professionally built and hosted domains, all whilst keeping the community together for over a complete decade, whilst still fighting and competing at the very highest level and carrying it all on my back.
MG I will applaud only what you did at the very beginning of your career, and that was your only display of leadership. You brought people together under a unified forum and had the knowledge at the time to know it was a good idea for you to jump at the chance to control things. The corruption for a lot of people, especially since it was mainly from people in your rather close circle, is inevitably why people literally stopped seeing you as any type of leader anymore. And of course there will always be someone running their shit, and mad, but those same people generally haven't committed a shred of effort towards anything positive for this community at all.
Nobody has, and nobody will do what I have done for this community, especially now that we are at this point. - Bice is definitely one of the greatest fighters of all time, and definitely the biggest "comeback" fighter, and the only one that did what it takes to get to the top, rather than just quit and say "I'll never be that fast" which is exactly what 90% of the others did at a certain point. The more modern things got with this, as you said pretty much, it changed. But just like in boxing and MMA, the game evolves. And it evolved to a level that is out of the realm of your possibilities at this point far as being at the very top in this day and age.
That being said, we should all just fight. But I will still end up reaching 0.5 connects in T2 I bet, so good luck out there in the wild, my s20 was almost 1 second connects because I was basically doubling my T2 connects and adding a bit, and they were 0.5 apiece. When I beat Jaxon in Eden, I was ridiculous, and an official night of fights meant I don't even get touched. I truly don't believe I can be defeated while performing at the highest level. Not remotely, but I am definitely willing to entertain these notions, and will always be there to give credit and respect towards the fighters that have earned it, when it comes to this community. And Bice has earned a place at the top.
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Post by Johnny King on Apr 4, 2020 17:08:14 GMT -5
All that being said, there is absolutely nobody that has been able to defeat me even once at the highest level, so I look forward to a fight from anyone that believes they can try. I won't need to train, just show up and we can clear a date. I'm working on the proper platform right now to settle this once more, so don't worry about that.
I apologize in advance to anyone that has the nerve to step to me at all, it won't be pretty. I have in fact been standing as the absolute best for a very long time now, and damaging me at the highest level only happens in fantasies. Even now.
I was pretty much sitting there peacefully before this all randomly broke out and was very pressured for a response, so I made it happen. But as a fight was also thrown down, I have no problem rising to the occasion. But I make legends look like amateurs out here in the wild, so I wouldn't recommend stepping into it. Too much smoke, no matter who wants it.
Stop me? False. o_-;
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Bice
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The Connoisseur of Speed-Fighting.
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Post by Bice on Apr 4, 2020 20:52:07 GMT -5
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Post by MG on Apr 5, 2020 9:14:06 GMT -5
MG, you vanished for a decade and tried to piece together the history of speed fighting. It's no wonder you're so detatched from reality .. you weren't part of it. I can't begin to list the plateaus that were ascended, the records that were shattered, the fundamentals to core rp that were altered in response to the last generation of gods. History should have ended then -- and it would have if not for your nauseating interpretation of it years later. It actually sickens me to read posts like this. If you want to rewrite history, Bice is giving you the chance. Take it. This is no way to talk to your predecessor, Green Legend. My last fight was against you in 2012. Not quite a decade. Deja Vu. I'm going to find the thread... got distracted and found something else instead. Darn it. No desire to rewrite history -- I'm fine with it the way it is. @kyo A true statement from someone, for once. I'm quite aware that they're both capable of being fast and eloquent.
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Post by Ukyo on Apr 7, 2020 19:54:58 GMT -5
i literally can't believe all these retards still care about speed fighting. quite honestly you want recognition? here it is, bice you're the female lance ryan williams if that makes you happy. if you can't understand it, i'll expound for you: you became the fastest(supposedly), after everybody who was ever truly good at fighting quit. because fighting is fucking stupid, boring, retarded, pointles, and jesus should i even go on any longer? such a fucking waste of time. shut the fuck up already, it is 2020 nobody has seriously fought in probably 10 years. so if you want any recognition, there it is. you grabbed the crown while every one else moved on to real life, or better things in general. congratulations. you're a champion. enjoy the internet, the empty chat rooms filled with zero fighters of which you rule over with an iron fist, you stupid cunt who could never even measure up to amicus, who no offense to her was never very good at speed fighting to begin with when it came to fighting with the big boys.
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Post by dragonmaidfynd on Apr 7, 2020 21:39:16 GMT -5
It has been 10 years since there was even a fighting scene, it doesn't matter anymore guys. I just like to sit here and watch the drama of have-beens who circle jerk over their feeble accomplishments to the scene. The last real war was in 2006-2008 and the last actual fight that mattered may have been around 2010. Outside of holding the crown of barely defeating each other, drama outside of the scene has completely dwarfed nearly all the fights. Get your shit together dudes and make a legacy that lasts. I made that mistake, caring more about winning than doing actual, you know, making something of it like a story that can be remembered for the ages. Before Realchat I was known for doing awesome wars and shit, now? People only remember me for the drama, because that is all this scene has become.
MG, T2 isn't relevant anymore and the bygone era of fighting has come to a close, there is no way to fix it, the toxicity of this place shows, without a doubt that the style is only used by apes.
Violet, no one reads 10 paragraphs long posts.
Cloud, you need to disboard bump your chat so I can stalk it sometime for the popcorn eating drama, its disboard is 3 months old lol can't get in. Also, stop drinking and doing drugs k, that will be your legacy if you don't actually RP when you fight.
Ukyo, you need to stop fucking cream cheese STD ridden pussy and calling it 'being a man' lmfao especially when that particular person has the face only a mother can love. But you right about Bice, I am not even sure why she cares about the scene anyway, there hasn't been a notable actual fight in almost a decade, and any real fun that was to be had died years ago.
Prettz, don't bother.
For every 3 fights, there is probably 6 months of drama between them lmfao
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Post by dragonmaidfynd on Apr 9, 2020 0:55:54 GMT -5
Alright, honest opinions here.
I haven't seen Cloud fight in 6 years so I have no idea anything about him, but I want to talk about Violet.
From 2014-2020 was a Violet dominated era, but in everything besides T2. She defeated and whooped the competition in other, higher styles than any other fighter, and I do not know anyone who would have even matched her besides Kael, but Kael by the time he got back into the game was slow as shit and got devastated by her. If it wasn't for her lackluster performance in s10 and T2 she easily would be in the top 3 of all time. Violet has repeatedly shown class in her fighting ability in defeating anyone who went against her in Xat, even me.
The issue is Ukyo lacks a big thing: She has held her own against Prettz in S15 and RT2A, who still is the proclaimed best of the best to ever live, and way faster than Kael or MG ever was. And I remember Kael, he gassed out fast asf while Violet is consistent between posts, where the only way to beat her is to the punch and counter spamming in certain styles to throw off her rhythm and burst just faster than her by making her panic, which was 3 years ago when that worked, probably doesn't now.
Violet deserves way more credit than she gets here, and it is kind of sad, but honestly, T2 is dead and we should all move on.
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Post by Ukyo on Apr 9, 2020 14:50:35 GMT -5
Look lady, I don't know you but since your first post made me laugh I'm here to entertain a reply to explain a few things. And I hope I'm not wasting too much time here because judging by your post count one can only assume you're just a Bice fangirl so here goes nothing.
You're going on and on about an era from 2014-2020, but in your own post you said it has been 10 years since there was even a fighting scene. Quite honestly that right there sums it up in itself. But I'll continue Kael has been nonissue for much longer than just 10 years. He may have came back, but it doesnt mean he was ever interested in truly regaining any of his old ability nor does it mean he was his former self this guy quit fighting ages ago. I may lack the knowledge of the years you're referring to about who is the best, but that is the point now isn't it? The best fighters have all gone, nobody is fighting anymore except a few randoms who can't move on. We may lack knowledge about how fast they are, or how skilled they are but it doesn't matter because fighting has BEEN dead. And to add on one final thing, you go on and on about being the fastest, or having the most speed. Speed is not everything, speed does not make you skilled, and this is coming from one of the fastest to have ever fought. Here is a summation of holes in your plot MG IS in fact the best all around fighter there ever was there so much evidence to back it up he defeated the number 2 and number 3 fighters 20-0. Nobody else could have done that when fighting was in its prime and you couldn't enter a chat room on the internet without bumping into fighters. So listen well, there are fighters that were faster than me that I beat, there were fighters slower than me that also beat me though not many it has happened sometimes you just get outsmarted, or even nerves come into play(this was a big issue with Kael and myself as well admittedly). Now Bice may well be the fastest, but it means nothing when everyone is all gone from fighting. She was around back then when everyone was still fighting, why did she take so long to put her nose to the grindstone and do something while it mattered? I mean she didn't think T2 would live on forever did it? Come on now, we're all growing up and realizing what a waste of time it is. So you can't take purely off of speed, as her being the best fighter to have ever lived or whatever you want to call it. Prettz became much faster than me in the end, Cloud was faster than me in the end (in t2 only), and I managed to beat both in my last fights with them. There is in fact only time Cloud ever beat me that he keeps spouting off about in Helion Legacy and directly afterward asked for a rematch and I beat him immediately, then a tiebreaker and won again and if that's not the case you can track down the referee who was Jer who goes by "Jerbear" some DigiChat hacker, who is ironically the best referee I have ever seen and ask him yourself. Speed is a nonfactor. People can only be so fast, it comes down to adaptation. Hell Cloud is faster than Prettz and Prettz managed to beat me more than Cloud did. And Cloud STILL lost to Prettz, and all it took was simply leaving his range 2x. Cloud is a monkey who can never remember anything properly, and goes on and on about how he is the best at every thing that exists, ask him he was the best heroes of the storm player, league of legends player, gunz player, why he was probably the best theoretical physicist in einstein's age, all while still being the true world chess champion during Fischer's era. Its all hype, and nobody is buying it except himself and a few lackeys who nobody really couldn't care less about.
So I may have missed some chapters in speed fighting, and I may be lacking in something big but again. To quote you. There hasn't been a fighting scene in 10 years. So honestly I don't think I missed too much. The fact that we're all still here arguing about it, is actually stupid. And the fact that Bice is all uptight with her panties in a twist when MG admittedly did give her some credit in his post and had she allowed him time before jumping down his throat I'm sure he would have went back and written something about her. Considering reading his post shows that he was just pulling old copy and pastes from the a laptop that he was clearing out, and he VIOLET SHOULD BE ON THE LIST, instead of just saying thanks, or saying then put me on she flew off the handle like a child. Oh well. What can you do? Some of us have moved on, and some of us clearly have not.
One final word once more. MG pound for pound beat every one, nobody ever beat him twice in a row, faster people than him fell by the wayside while he walked away victorious time and time again. He even defeated Prettz during this time when Prettz had become the fastest fighter I've ever seen, and that's after all of us had quit already. For quite a long time the only fighters left were just Prettz, Bice,and Cloud vying for power over two other people each (Prettz only considered it something to do out of boredom I'm certain), so maybe just one over the other. A final time SPEED FIGHTING IS DEAD, MOVE IT ALONG FOLKS. This forum serves no more as nothing but a historical reference point for nostalgia, a place to come and reminisce and you people soil it by coming to argue about being the best when there's nothing to be the best of and you just cannot seem to comprehend that.
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Post by MG on Apr 19, 2020 22:43:40 GMT -5
fixed OP
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