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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2012 12:30:31 GMT -5
This Top Five list is based on current speeds/accuracy and win to lose ratios, Prettz being at the top, this also use deductive reasoning to figure out who deserves the spot. Such as Prettz > Violet > Mikao > Kyo > Tensain, if Prettz demolishes Bice, he must be faster than everyone else since Bice defeats everyone else on the list more times than she loses.
This will be more frequently updated than before, due to me having a lot more time on my hands. There are going to be rules though that all people should follow. If you have not fought for 2 weeks, you automatically lose a rank, if you don't fight for 4 weeks, you are off the list. This will ensure people who are on the list will be the top. If there isn't much fighting, I am not going to bother updating it. It will be updated every 2 weeks probably.
Keeping myself off the list insures there is no bias, though I am going to show you were I would be placed; I would be right below Bice. The only person I lose to in S15 is Kyo, periodically, it is almost mutual, but I almost always win in S10, any subtype. This is based on deductive reasoning also.
Prettz Prettz is so fast still that no one can really beat him. It isn't just a connect that comes out 1-2 seconds flat every time, sadly, it is everything. Even in Xat's S10 he is a formidable opponent, though he still doesn't understand the rules all too well and is his only one two of his down sides. Another down side is his posting grammar/sentence structure is absolutely horrid ( He is the epitome of Doyalism ).
Violet Bloodstone This woman is a beast in higher styles, defeating opponents with absolute ease. S10 she is still the best and only is defeated in it by two people; Prettz and myself. In S15+, there is no one that can match her, and Royals hands down she is the best. This is NOT the Violet from Myspace, this is a Violet transformed by a year of training underneath Prettz. Hands down probably the fastest female fighter I have ever seen. Violet's style is the second most solid out of all the fighters here, she doesn't make many mistakes, but that is probably the only time she loses inside S15 Royals.
Mikalo Mikalo has made strides, but his consistency is lacking. He is capable of 220+ wpm bursts on tests, but cannot replicate is on the playing field. If he could, he would be a lot higher on this list, easily. He is a good fighter, proud, strong, and arrogant, which makes a good fighter in the long run. As my student, I kinda am a little harsh on Mikalo, and this is why; His offense is his only shortcomings in his styles. He has a tendency to slow down when he is about to connect, and that can be used against him, but other than that, he has greater ability to fight tougher opponents than himself because of his shored up defensive skills.
Kyo Weird, huh? A Xat speed fighter capable of S15 royals, s10, and has a 5-8 second S15 average? His s10 speed needs a tiny bit of work, but he is getting there. I haven't seen him lose a match against anyone else in awhile, and is getting high in the ranks of speed fighting. Only person he loses consistently to is myself, Violet, and obviously Prettz. Kyo doesn't have that many flaws, he has good timing, good offense, the only thing he lacks is his defensive abilities.
Tensain After watching his fights for awhile I have decided to place Tensain on the Fifth, and his hard contender would be Albereich. Albereich doesn't fight as many people as him, and doesn't rank up like he can, though he still is a formidable opponent. Tensain a few months ago would be higher on this list if he shored up his fighting weaknesses, which are; He has a tendency to post unnecessary movement posts, which opens him up to be countered or/and hit. His defensive abilities are above average than the rest of the fighters on Xat, why he gets the nod. He is fast at times, faster than Violet in S10 when he is at his best.
Special Mentions; Albereich Tessa Tentou
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Post by Decimus on Sept 25, 2012 16:56:16 GMT -5
I would like to rectify this. Yata defeated Pyrros. Not Decimus. They're two completely different RPC's and have completely different game's.
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Post by Ukyo on Sept 25, 2012 18:36:52 GMT -5
that's not in order right? i agree with the people on this list, just not the way it's set up. it needs more structure, like what place are they in.
decimus, if it's the same person behind the keyboard on those names it doesn't really matter. that's like saying lance never beat me that one time he hotkeyed because i wasn't on the name ukyo. as long as people get the message it's all good. it's not that big of an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 22:39:35 GMT -5
No, that is not in any particular order.
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Post by Decimus on Sept 26, 2012 23:53:38 GMT -5
I just like to simply point it out because Pyrros and Decimus have completely different physiques and tactics, and Decimus being much stronger than Pyrros in both strategy and physical build; creating a large difference between the two characters.
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Post by Decimus on Sept 26, 2012 23:54:13 GMT -5
And also, Hokusa isn't considered a legendary fighter on Xat. I don't know where you got that from.
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Post by Inunoku on Sept 27, 2012 1:07:36 GMT -5
And also, Hokusa isn't considered a legendary fighter on Xat. I don't know where you got that from. Took the words right out of my mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 1:32:39 GMT -5
At one point, he was called the Master of Blades combat, since no one else could beat him. So I had to say I guessed to that he was definitely the person who I could put on this list as a good fighter.
I don't know about you, but that kid was insanity when I fought him, and I was nearly at my peak when I fought him, able to devastate anyone in my path. So, I really do think of him as one of the top 5 I ever faced on Xat.
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Post by Inunoku on Sept 27, 2012 1:49:03 GMT -5
At one point, he was called the Master of Blades combat, since no one else could beat him. So I had to say I guessed to that he was definitely the person who I could put on this list as a good fighter. I don't know about you, but that kid was insanity when I fought him, and I was nearly at my peak when I fought him, able to devastate anyone in my path. So, I really do think of him as one of the top 5 I ever faced on Xat. He's only the master of blades, because he was one of the best sword weilders AT THE TIME. He isn't a legend, he was just strong and fast.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 1:51:08 GMT -5
Also, I fought for 12 years, I know who is fucking good and who isn't good. Hokusa was like .. A faster version of Shane Walker in his prime, and more detailed with his posts. And then we go into Haseo_S, who was like Ukyo in his prime, easily.
Except I haven't met an MG yet in Xat, who has run straight through everyone. ( I don't count powers, because everyone uses some kinda metaphysics attack, which can't be beat with conventional physics, so ... Kinda retarded to me. )
The Kael of Xat would hands down be Tidus, and the Justin Gunshin would be Drifter. Justin Gunshin in his prime, by the way, if he typo'd more. Drifter had good offensive abilities and defensive, but is so underrated he is practically in no ones top 10, except for mine.
People say my tactics are fucking horrible, I just 'spam' my opponents to death, which is absolutely nothing of the sort. My tactics are speed based, but they are still tactics, and only 2% of xat has ever come against it and won.
One would be Yata, and the other would be Haseo. Obito only beat the fuck out of me because I knew nothing of Xat styles when I first came across him. Once I got my tactics down on pulling people to counter me, I quickly rose to #1 in Xat melee/hands to hand combat.
Only recently have people started to beat me, because I keep fucking up due to not training anymore. If I trained, I would be back at my peak, which is able to hit a 1 seconder at whim, and a 2-3 second S15 without much effort. I was able to hit a 3-5 second S20 too, which Prettz can verify for me.
During the first year of my Xat conquest, I didn't see anyone on the horizon that could match me. I trained Riku for a couple months, and he started to get good, and then he vanished, so I decided to find more students.
I taught everyone I came across everything I knew, including Nosaku, who I hear is getting really fast, but he keeps quitting in the middle of my matches, so I don't bother anymore.
For the legends I will hear eventually in my ears again, are irrelevant. From my time in Xat, I fought who ever was around at the time, and defeated them. You can say all you want this is a weak era, and I can believe you in that, except for 'If this was a weak generation, where the fuck is the last? What in god's name did they teach these kids?'
But with all the speed of the previous generation, shouldn't there be one standing out? No, just Yata, and Yata just recently became good since he started to train with me and Yuush. None of the other people are as dedicated as him, and when they lose, they point out 'oh, i don't care about speed fighting,' or 'oh, i wasn't trying.'
Damn, reminds me of halo fucking nerds, 'oh, i wasn't trying,' when you fucking push their heads into the dirt and make them scream for their uncles.
I would love to hear these kids get into the Army or the fucking MMA field. Hell, some of them are in a power powered sport, or so they claim. They should know not to step into a ring and not try their best.
Maybe I have a different mentality toward this game, a different way of thinking. I don't know anymore, but it seems everyone I come across has some kinda excuse. I don't, I never have since I got good.
I understand why a powers fighter wouldn't want to fight against me. I understand that, I don't push them into something I don't want them to.
But then I get these power faggots coming up to me 'lol, you won't fight me, u scured.' No, faggot, I ain't scared, I just don't fucking do the fighting style. Jeezus, I feel like I am talking to fucking children sometimes.
Inunoku is starting to become that kid that you have to ignore for him to leave you alone, but keeps coming up to your ear and screaming for attention.
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Post by Inunoku on Sept 27, 2012 2:44:41 GMT -5
Who gives a fuck how long you've fought for? You don't understand just because you are good that you're opinion is more important any anyone elses. I've been around for almost as long as Xat has been around. My opinion OUTWEIGH's yours for the SHEER fact that I've been around both OLD and NEW generation fighters, was ONCE a pretty damn good speed fighter for one of the best clans on Xat to ever have existed, and ran SEVERAL lethal clans of my own. Not to mention my political prowess, and intelligence. Its hard to remain humble when a faggot like YOURSELF is screaming at the top of his lungs about how he is the greatest. You aren't shit Lance. Get over it. You're going to be a has been. You hold no political power, and even if you are the 'strongest' fighter on Xat, I know others who have beaten you in fights. I know for a fact Yatoshime and Alice have both beaten you in YOUR niche.
Nobody but YOU keeps bringing up dead legends. They are not relevant to current Xatech politics and fighting. You haven't fought any Xatech legends. You don't even know who IS or ISN'T. Who WAS or who WASN'T. You haven't been around long enough, and all the information you have, get and are getting is SECOND hand information that has been passed down and distorted. Why do you keep bringing up that you so happen to beat one or two people who hold no significance NOW. They are weak, all legends are good for is their information unlike their former glories which at THEIR top strengths, easily 4 years ago at the EARLIEST, could beat you Lance. Now, there IS no legends on Xat currently. I will gladly state all seven of the legends, who I know for a fact you have NEVER fought. So stop pretending you know anything about the politics or even information about Xat. I've lived through it, its MY STORY to tell not YOURS. YOU hold no weight in ANYTHING on Xat.
You're starting to become that anally annoying kid, who everyone hates for being so cocky, and full of himself. When in reality, is just an idiot who happens to scream louder than those with information. You're worse than Drifter at that. He banned his opponents of thought, and you just happen to do what you said you hate about other fighters 'lol he cant fite meh, fgt' 'lol he stupid' 'lol durrr i r kno moar than u'.
Shut the fuck up, Lance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 2:59:28 GMT -5
I have never said I was the greatest fighter, for fuck sakes. I said I was the fastest, pound for pound.
You are saying that I would have lost against them, which is irrelevant once again. If I was raised in a strong era, I probably would be even stronger than I am now.
I came from a very powerful era of 2009 and into the 'low era' of Xat and demolished.
What I am saying, even when our era started to falter, people like Ukyo picked up the crown and was undefeated by anyone on realchat. Why hasn't that happened on Xat? It has, and it was with Haseo.
Plenty of people claimed a win on him, but that was because he slowed down for many, except for a few he called the fastest at the time, which was myself, Drifter, and Hokusa.
Now that all of them are out of the picture, Tidus came out on top.
And don't even go there on me losing to them. I don't see them post videos of their supposed 'superior speed and ability' beyond word of mouth. In my day, we got on cam, we studied each other, we posted VIDEOS for Christ sake.
Once again, I am hearing blubber.
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Post by Inunoku on Sept 27, 2012 3:05:30 GMT -5
I have never said I was the greatest fighter, for fuck sakes. I said I was the fastest, pound for pound. You are saying that I would have lost against them, which is irrelevant once again. If I was raised in a strong era, I probably would be even stronger than I am now. I came from a very powerful era of 2009 and into the 'low era' of Xat and demolished. What I am saying, even when our era started to falter, people like Ukyo picked up the crown and was undefeated by anyone on realchat. Why hasn't that happened on Xat? It has, and it was with Haseo. Plenty of people claimed a win on him, but that was because he slowed down for many, except for a few he called the fastest at the time, which was myself, Drifter, and Hokusa. Now that all of them are out of the picture, Tidus came out on top. And don't even go there on me losing to them. I don't see them post videos of their supposed 'superior speed and ability' beyond word of mouth. In my day, we got on cam, we studied each other, we posted VIDEOS for Christ sake. Once again, I am hearing blubber. You only say that because its easier to just say I'm full of shit instead of actually reading and defending your position. In all reality, you can't defend your position, so you are resorting to just saying what I am talking about makes no sense, and holds no relevance. It holds a lot, and more than you just saying "I am hearing blubber". TL;DR Put up or shut up, Lance.
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Post by Nosaku Tyrannus on Sept 27, 2012 3:09:52 GMT -5
Hello Everybody, This is Nosaku joining the conversation
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Lance, what the fuck are you saying? -- Make it clear please.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 3:14:19 GMT -5
What I have been doing is leading up to this. Because you make no fucking sense. You declare everyone weak because .. They lose. Okay, I understand that, cool. Soooo, you know exactly the speed and accuracy of every fighter, including how they fought, awesome. That sounds like a 'cool story bro' moment, because I cannot even remember what kinda food I ate 4 years back.
You declare these people weak, right? Cool again, but with no evidence to provide beyond your memories, which may be filled with nostalgic feelings, you try and compare them to that.
That is like comparing Mayweather to Muh. Ali, it ain't going to happen unless we brought one of them to each others time and fucking fought them. And unless you have a time machine, I ain't going to believe you.
Another thing you are saying is that I am weak because I beat everyone? That makes no fucking sense.
That is like saying Mayweather fucking sucks because he didn't beat Muh. Ali, a fucking again.
I don't know how many times I have to use these analogies man, but you just state 'u suck, last era butter' bullshit. Get in your time machine, or into a electric chair man, because that is about as good as this conversation is going to get.
Us at HORP have already decided not to compare old generation vs. new, wanna know why? Because we don't have a FUCKING TIME MACHINE.
That is why we don't have a Top 5-10 fighting lists with old people and new people alike, we have HALL OF FAMES.
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